Hadn't even considered that angle, will ask about that specifically if I look into it.

Yeah at this point Im noticing every pricing thread here ends at "ask for the paperwork" one way or another.

Has anyone seen a listing say it plainly, bad year, less honey, so it's costing more.

which means the label itself isn't really comparable across sellers, same problem as the color and altitude conversations honestly.

Thanks, thats clearer. I came in expecting one system and it's more like two that overlap.

good shout. ill head it "steer clear if" and stick a line underneath saying not being on the list isnt a green light. that i can wiki

half this list is already scattered across three old threads. drop your questions in here and ill stick them in one wiki post so its a link next time ...

If we get enough sources, I'll convert this into a country wiki entry.