fair. came in expecting a hype club tbh, this is the opposite and i kinda like it

"dont expect a number" should just be the forum tagline 😅

saving this. the will/wont list answers like 80% of what i was nervous to type out. cheers

if youre buying off a stall somewhere on a trip, half the value of this place is just learning what to ask the seller. ive watched stories fall apart the second you ask for a batch number

thank you for putting the heritage point in the list and not at the bottom. for many people this is just a product. for us it is men climbing cliffs on rope ladders for very little money. a nice photo of a cliff is not proof anyone was paid fairly.